During the Eastern Han Dynasty, Liu Xiu started his troops mainly by Nanyang people. Therefore, there was the so-called Nanyang School in the Eastern Han Dynasty, and Liu Xiu had the so-called "Twenty-eight Hostels", all of whom were from Nanyang. An important reason why the capital of the Eastern Han Dynasty was located in Luoyang was that Luoyang was close to Nanyang, the hometown of these nobles.

In the Ming Dynasty, there was the Huaiyou Group under Zhu Yuanzhang, which had a great influence, but later Zhu Yuanzhang wantonly killed heroes, and many people in Huaiyou Group died under Zhu Yuanzhang.