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Will the "cancellation of the swimming pool" be completely cancelled if it is controversial again?
Will the "cancellation of the swimming pool" be completely cancelled if it is controversial again?

The "cancellation of the swimming pool" is controversial again. Will it be completely cancelled? On March 7th, the topic of "Suggesting to cancel the pool area of commercial housing" rushed to the top of the hot search list in Weibo. At the annual National People's Congress, the topic of housing is a hot topic among the whole people. If the "cancellation of the swimming pool" causes controversy again, will it be completely cancelled?

The "cancellation of the swimming pool" is controversial again. Will it be completely cancelled? 1On March 7th, Hong Yang, a member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, suggested canceling the pool area of commercial housing and rushed to the top of the hot search list. In the comment area under the hot search, netizens praised and supported it, saying that the proposal spoke out the voice of the people.

After the members made suggestions, a citizen of Zhengzhou said that at least 6.5438+0.52 million yuan of his house was spent on the pool area. Then, why is the pool area controversial and should it be cancelled?

The pool area for buying a house cost 6,543,800 yuan more+0,520 yuan. The public questioned the rationality of the pool area.

It is understood that the pre-sale and pool area model in China Mainland was borrowed from Hong Kong in the 1990s. But in fact, Hong Kong officially abolished the pool model as early as nine years ago, and all parties argued for many years before it was completely abolished.

In Zhengzhou, some citizens even spent 6.5438+0.52 million yuan to buy a house as a pool area, and some citizens bought properties with a pool area close to 29%.

"According to what standard do we pay the' pool area'?" Sharla Cheung (pseudonym), a citizen of Zhengzhou, bought a house in Zhengzhou in February this year with a total price of 6 1.8 million yuan. According to the house book, the building area of the property she bought was1.81.25m2, the actual interior area was1.36m2, and the shared area was 44.65m2, accounting for 24.6%. According to the purchase unit price of 34,097 yuan/m2, the cost of shared area reaches 1.52243 1.05 yuan.

Mr. Wang of Zhengzhou is equally confused. This year, he bought a 73. 17 square meter property with a total price of 900,000, of which the interior area was 52.2 square meters and the pool area was 20.97 square meters, accounting for nearly 29%. "Nearly one-third of a house is the pool area. What is this? "

Most attributes default to Extra Pool Area.

Generally speaking, the allocation rate of houses below 7 floors is 7% ~12%; The allocation rate of 7~ 1 1 layer is10% ~ 20%; The allocation rate of 12~33 layers is 14%~24%.

Top News Henan Business Daily reporter visited several properties in Zhengzhou and found that when citizens buy properties in Zhengzhou, they will automatically default to "excess pool area", and the proportion of pool area in different communities is not the same, and some communities even have "one pool ratio on the first floor".

"In fact, the phenomenon of' different pool ratios in the same community' is widespread." Zhao Lan (a pseudonym), a staff member of a real estate group in Zhengzhou, told the Henan Business Daily reporter of Headline News.

According to Zhao Lan, taking a real estate group in the East Third Ring Road where he lives as an example, there are 17 houses in this community. Because different buildings have different ladder-to-household ratios or different residential locations, or even different apartment types, the "pool ratio" is not the same.

"In fact, when developers take land, it is natural to consider the cost when the land price remains unchanged. The greater the ladder-to-household ratio, the more comfortable you live, and the higher the developer's cost. " Zhao Lan said.

Although the pool area is a cliche, it really needs further attention.

On March 7th, Hong Yang, a member of CPPCC, criticized the phenomenon of pool area of commercial housing sales. Hongyang pointed out that it is a common phenomenon in China to increase the pool area in commercial housing sales. The most terrible thing is that the pool area lacks legal basis and institutional constraints. What area to share and how much area to share are all at a loss.

To this end, Hongyang suggested canceling the pool area and counting the actual pool area cost into the practical area.

According to Yan Yuejin, research director of think tank center of Yiju Research Institute, from the perspective of protecting owners' rights and interests, CPPCC members' concern about pool area is worthy of recognition, which also shows that pool area is a common concern of owners. Secondly, he suggested that the public should objectively understand the contents of such proposals.

"Although such problems are commonplace, from the perspective of high-quality community development and fair and transparent house purchase transactions, it really needs further attention." On March 9, Yan Yuejin said in an interview that the definition of pool area, the cost and benefit of pool area, and the subsequent mechanism to solve such problems need to be further clarified in order to better study and deal with such problems.

It is necessary to prevent the cancellation of the pool area and breed new expenses.

"There is another problem to consider. The concept of pool area may be cancelled and other expenses have increased. " Yan Yuejin said that while reforming, we should also guard against the phenomenon of "canceling the pool area and breeding new expenses".

Yan Yuejin believes that the key is actually about the determination and pricing of the pool area, how to adjust the policy on the pool area, and how to optimize the current policy if the cost of such policy adjustment is high, all of which need to be considered at present. "Policy adjustment is on the one hand, and the cost of policy adjustment should also be considered."

Yan Yuejin introduced that, conventionally, the pool area is about 12%, that is, the housing acquisition rate is about 88%. Generally speaking, big cities are under great pressure to buy houses, and the pool area will be smaller, but some small cities will be bigger.

"A similar situation really needs to be improved step by step, and a pool system has been formulated before." Yan Yuejin said that from a normative point of view, the pool area really needs to be demonstrated, and it should be scientifically demonstrated and standardized from the perspective of property law.

Whether to cancel the pool area, Zhengzhou Housing Authority replied to five opinions.

On 20 19, members of Zhengzhou CPPCC put forward the proposal of "canceling the calculation of pool area for commercial housing sales in Zhengzhou according to the interior construction area" at the second meeting of the 14th CPPCC. In July of the same year, Zhengzhou Housing Security and Real Estate Administration made a specific reply to this proposal.

In reply, Zhengzhou Housing Security and Real Estate Administration explained some contradictions and problems that may exist in pricing according to the interior area from the actual consideration of the real estate market.

The first is the connection between the valuation based on interior area and the current real estate management system based on construction area. The reply said that in China's current real estate management system, the construction area is the basic data of all work. If the whole real estate management system is changed because of changing the sales model of commercial housing, it will not be worth the loss, and it may also produce great resistance, making it difficult to carry out the work.

The second is the quality of housing construction. If the house is priced according to the interior area, the pool area will no longer be used as the basis for calculating the house price, which may lead to the development enterprises not investing or investing less in the * * * area in order to save costs.

Third, how to protect the property buyers' ownership and right to use the shared area.

The fourth is the problem of "virtual high" housing unit price. Pricing by interior area is based on the premise that the total sales price of commercial housing will not change. Therefore, it is inevitable that the unit price of commercial housing floats on the surface compared with the valuation based on the construction area.

The fifth is the legality of pricing according to the interior area. In order to ensure the smooth implementation of pricing by interior area, it is necessary to determine the legality of pricing by interior area in the form of local regulations or administrative rules, and to enforce pricing by interior area in commercial housing sales.

The "cancellation of the swimming pool" is controversial again. Will it be completely cancelled? At the annual National People's Congress, the topic of housing is a hot topic among the whole people. This year's government work report proposes to continue to protect the housing needs of the people. Adhere to the position that houses are used for living, not for speculation, and explore new development models. On the topic of people's housing, NPC deputies and members of China People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC) put forward many concrete plans this year, and many suggestions aroused strong response from netizens and frequently appeared on the hot search list.

It is suggested to cancel the pool area and rush to the hot search first.

On March 7th, the topic of "Suggesting to cancel the pool area of commercial housing" rushed to the top of the hot search list in Weibo.

Hong Yang, a member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, said: "What area and how much area are shared are all a fog. Developers can only talk nonsense, and owners have no right to explain." Hong Yang said that it is a common phenomenon to increase the pool area in commercial housing sales. The most terrible thing is that the pool area lacks legal basis and institutional constraints.

Committee member Hong Yang suggested that if the state cancels the pool area, the actual pool area cost can be included in the practical area, so that ordinary people can understand the payment and buy a house with confidence, and at the same time, many contradictions and disputes between owners and developers can be resolved and social harmony can be promoted.

A number of representatives suggested canceling the pre-sale system of commercial housing.

Another focus of the two sessions on housing is the pre-sale system of commercial housing. According to incomplete statistics, during the two sessions of the National People's Congress in 2022, many CPPCC members, including NPC deputies, Vice Chairman of Jiangxi Provincial Committee for Democratic Progressive Party, Director of Housing and Urban-Rural Development Department of Jiangxi Province, CPPCC member Zhou, Vice Chairman of Anhui Provincial Committee for Democratic Progressive Party, CPPCC member, President of Nantong University, CPPCC member, and Zhang Jianming, Vice Chairman of Sichuan Federation of Industry and Commerce, submitted relevant proposals on the pre-sale system of commercial housing.

Lu Tianxi, deputy chairman of the Jiangxi Provincial Committee of the Democratic Progressive Party and director of the Jiangxi Provincial Department of Housing and Urban-Rural Development, believes that the threshold for pre-sale permission of commercial housing can be gradually raised until the transition to existing home sales; At the same time, the payment method of the house purchase price will be adjusted, and the buyer will pay by installments according to the progress of the project, and the final payment will be paid after the project reaches the completion and delivery conditions.

Zhou, member of the CPPCC and vice chairman of Anhui Provincial Committee of the Chinese Revolutionary Committee, suggested canceling the pre-sale system of commercial housing and implementing existing home sales. This is the fifth consecutive year that he has submitted relevant proposals.

Shi Weidong, member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference and president of Nantong University, suggested that the supervision of auction house sales should be strengthened, and the housing construction department should set up a special supervision account in a bank or a third-party custodian to manage the deposit for auction house sales, and gradually abolish the sub-regional auction system.

Zhang Jianming, member of CPPCC and vice chairman of Sichuan Federation of Industry and Commerce, also advocated canceling the pre-sale system of commercial housing. Zhang Jianming said that the current pre-sale system, which deals in the form of auction, has become the root of the intensification of contradictions in the real estate market and is obviously unfair to buyers, which has damaged people's livelihood to some extent.

"Rent-and-purchase with the same right" has attracted much attention.

In addition, some delegates focused on the housing rental market.

Yao Jinbo, deputy to the National People's Congress and CEO of 58 City, suggested speeding up the implementation of "equal rights for renting and purchasing" to effectively protect the relevant rights and interests of low-income people. The housing rent of new citizens in big cities accounts for 30%-50% of their income. It is suggested that the annual increase of housing rent should not exceed 5%, so that new citizens and young people can feel more at ease and enhance their happiness.

Yao Jinbo believes that if the right to rent a house is the same as the right to buy a house, I believe that the anxiety of young people will be much less, many people will really live in a house without speculation, and everyone can really take renting a house as a long-term alternative to buying a house.

Mo Tianquan, member of the CPPCC and chairman of Fangtianxia, also suggested that both rent and purchase should be adhered to, so as to guarantee the right of renters to enjoy public services. Promote the transformation of the housing model from "purchase" to "rental and purchase simultaneously". Vigorously develop the housing rental market, especially affordable rental housing.

Wen Aihua, deputy to the National People's Congress, Party Secretary and President of Hunan Branch of China Construction Bank, put forward four suggestions on cultivating and developing the housing rental market. In strengthening the supervision of the leasing industry, Wen Aihua believes that the legislation of the Housing Leasing Regulations should be accelerated and a perfect online signing filing system should be built.

In terms of promoting lease empowerment, he suggested promoting the overall governance of lease empowerment, realizing the same right of renting and purchasing basic public services, and steadily promoting the empowerment of public services. In terms of supporting and encouraging institutionalized long-term rent, Wen Aihua believes that tax incentives can be increased. In terms of increasing financial support, Wen Aihua suggested increasing support for the construction of public rental housing and affordable housing, and developing long-term lease loans and corporate loans.

The "cancellation of the swimming pool" is controversial again. Will it be completely cancelled? 3 "I spent 100 square meters, but only bought a house of about 70 square meters". The pool area is widely criticized by buyers. During the two sessions this year, the topic of "canceling the pool area" was once again on the hot search, and some CPPCC members suggested that the country cancel the pool area.

What is the pool area?

According to the People's Daily, during the two sessions this year, Hong Yang, a member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, said that it is a common phenomenon in China to add pool area to the sales of commercial housing. However, the pool area and pool area are all confused, and developers can only "talk nonsense", and owners have no right to defend.

So, what is the pool area? Generally speaking, the shared construction area refers to the construction area of the public parts of the whole building, which is shared by the property owners of the whole building, and mainly includes: elevator shaft, pipeline shaft, stairwell, garbage chute, power distribution room, equipment room, public hall, aisle, guard room on duty, etc. , and the area of public service rooms and management rooms of the whole building.

However, Hong Yang mentioned that no professional organization has ever measured the pool area of each household under the supervision of the owner or a third-party professional organization, and no owner has measured the pool area of his own house. The pool area is intangible, but the people bear a high cost for it. There is no uniform standard for the division of pool area. Which areas belong to the pool area and which are not, and are there any repeated charges? It can only be decided by the developer.

In Hongyang's view, the pool area has also spawned a series of unreasonable charges, such as property fees and heating fees, all of which are charged according to the pool area. During the life of the house, the accumulation of decades is another huge grievance expenditure.

To this end, Hongyang suggested that the state cancel the pool area and include the actual pool area cost in the practical area. Let the people understand that they should be assured of paying money and buying a house. At the same time, they will also solve many contradictions and disputes between owners and developers and promote social harmony.

The Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development once mentioned that "transactions should be conducted with the interior construction area"

In fact, the discussion on canceling the pool area has not stopped in recent years. The last time it caused a heated discussion was in 20 19.

On February 20 18 19, official website, Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development, issued the Code for Urban and Rural Water Supply Engineering: a notice for public consultation on article 38 of the mandatory code for full-text engineering construction in the field of housing and urban-rural construction. Among the 38 mandatory codes for engineering construction, there is a 3 1 000-word Code for Residential Engineering (Draft for Comment), in which the second part, 2.4.6, points out that "residential buildings should be traded in the use area. "This is the first time that the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development has clearly stated in official documents that houses should be traded according to the interior area.

Analysts believe that at present, China's residential transactions are mainly based on the construction area, which will lead to the problem that the same project has the same construction area but different use areas, thus aggravating the contradiction of "pool area hurts people".

2065438+On February 24th, 2009, Xinhua News Agency published an article entitled "Authoritative Experts Respond to Housing Should Deal with Interior Building Area".

Authoritative experts explained in an interview with Xinhua News Agency that "houses should be traded according to the interior construction area". In the process of drafting the code, the calculation methods of residential area at home and abroad were investigated. It is an international practice to calculate according to the usable area, while the calculation method of residential area in China mainly adopts the building area or usable area.

The unified calculation of residential transaction area according to the use area of suites in the Draft for Comment mainly solves two problems: First, it solves the problem that the use area of suites is the same but the use area of households is different. Due to the great regional differences in China, many types of residential structures and other factors, the thickness of residential walls is different, resulting in the same construction area, but the actual use area in the suite is different.

The second is to solve the problem of opaque household use area. According to the use area of the suite, it is convenient for residents to calculate by themselves and realize "what you see is what you get".

However, the paper notes that the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development sent a letter again on September 10 of that year, soliciting opinions on the full text of the mandatory engineering construction specifications in the housing and urban-rural construction fields, such as the Code for Urban-Rural Water Supply Engineering.

However, in the second draft of "Code for Residential Engineering", the words "residential buildings should be traded with the usable area inside" have disappeared.

According to the statement in the Letter on Proposal No.0009 of the Fourth Session of the 13th Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (No.001Urban-Rural Construction) published by the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development on October 22nd, the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development is compiling the full-text mandatory engineering construction specification "Residential Engineering Specification".

Will the cancellation of pool area lead to an increase in house prices?

For the public, whether the cancellation of the pool area will have an impact on housing prices is also one of the hot topics of discussion.

Lu Wenxi, an analyst of Shanghai Zhongyuan real estate market, pointed out that both pool area pricing and interior area pricing only changed the pricing method for buyers and would not have much impact on the total housing price.

Li, chief researcher of Guangdong Housing Policy Research Center, believes that the impact of pool on housing prices is nonsense, and pool has no impact on housing prices. Because the purchased property itself contains two indispensable parts: exclusive and * * *. One side is light, and the other side is naturally heavy.

In addition, when people buy a house, they buy not only indoor living, but also community services supported by public swimming pools. In the past, the occupancy rate of tube-shaped buildings (the proportion of interior area) was very high, but there were few supporting facilities and poor public services. The current high-rise housing rate is low (70%-80%), but there are high-speed elevators, property management, lighting and ventilation.

Yan Yuejin, research director of the think tank center of Yiju Research Institute, pointed out that the issue of canceling the pool area should be worthy of attention, which reflects the guidance for buyers or owners to reduce costs and standardize community operations. But the so-called wool comes from sheep. If you don't share the cost and digest the cost, the developer will still calculate the house price.

Yan Yuejin believes that if it is simply cancelled, how to manage the pool area is still a problem. It believes that in the later stage, some communities or housing enterprises can be suggested to take the initiative to declare. If the housing enterprises have strong financial strength in the future, they can completely cancel the pool area. For example, the cost of the pool area is borne by the housing enterprises themselves, so that the housing enterprises can consider more value-added benefits. Similar processes need more consultation and demonstration with the owners to form the common denominator of opinion sharing.

Will the cancellation of the pool area shrink the assets of people who have already bought a house?

Jiang Han, a senior researcher at Pangu Think Tank, pointed out that the current housing ownership rate in China is actually very high. Although people have been criticizing high housing prices, in fact, most people are in a state of owning a house. The pool area will not shrink the assets of people who have already bought a house.

Jiang Han said that because both the pool area and the usable area in the suite only affect the unit price of the property, the total price of the property will not change much.

For example, suppose a house with a square meter of 100, the original price is 4 million, and the unit price per square meter is about 40,000, but in fact the usable area of this house is only 70 square meters. If the pool area is cancelled, the total price of the total house value will not change much, but the unit price per square meter will change to some extent, that is, it will be converted into a price of about 57 thousand yuan per square meter, so it will not affect everyone's actual wealth.

Who has the greatest impact on canceling the pool area?

Zhang Dawei, chief analyst of Zhongyuan Real Estate, pointed out that whether to adopt internal pricing basically has no impact on the actual purchase cost of property buyers, mainly affecting some developers who play the policy edge ball to sell houses with low occupancy rate. In addition, for property buyers, property fees and other expenses from the construction area may also be reduced.

Zhang Dawei said that the smaller the pool area, the better. If the area price is not included, it means that the developer can also increase the unit price of the suite. In addition, if developers crowd the pool too much, it will reduce the quality of the community, including the shrinkage of public areas such as corridors, clubs and lobbies.

For property buyers, Zhang Dawei said that the biggest impact on the pricing of interior area is auction sales, and it is easier for property buyers to price existing houses and second-hand houses. Judging from the calculated price, the landing of individual cities in China, such as Chongqing, is indeed more conducive to property buyers and reduces the gray interests for developers.

Is it necessary to cancel the pool area?

The commentary published in "Half-monthly Talk" pointed out that in the face of the call to cancel the pool area, there is a voice that after canceling the pool area, the developer is bound to increase the unit price inside the suite, and the total house price may be similar, just changing the soup without changing the medicine, and there is no need to adjust it. This statement is untenable. For property buyers, it is very important to be able to live in a clear house and stop paying for one confused account after another. This is more about fairness.

The article points out that it is necessary to explore the use of interior area instead of building area for pricing, so as to squeeze out the "moisture" of pool area. From a macro point of view, this can make the real estate market statistics more scientific, more truly reflect the living conditions of the people at this stage, more keenly reveal the changes in market conditions, create more favorable conditions for real estate tax collection, and provide more valuable data reference for the government to introduce real estate market regulation measures.

Abolishing the pool area, in particular, means putting an end to its related tricks and loopholes, avoiding a large number of contradictions and disputes from the source, and ensuring more fair and transparent market transactions.

Of course, it is unrealistic to try to cancel the pool area overnight. After all, the whole process of real estate transaction and holding is a huge system, which needs a transformation process and involves many vested interests. Therefore, it is necessary to overcome many obstacles, step by step, and gradually promote the housing sales model based on the interior area. In the transitional stage, relevant departments can make efforts to clarify the scope and standard of pool area, realize source management, strengthen supervision in the whole process, and plug loopholes in time.