After the old edition was broadcast, a sequel was broadcast. After watching less than one episode, the old discomfort came back. When the sequel came out, there was a feeling that "the new is not as good as the old", which was far from the old version in terms of music, makeup, performance, lines, actor manners and fighting scenes. I searched the production team of "The Sequel" on the Internet and found that it was almost the original crew of the 86 th edition of The Journey to the West: screenwriters: Zou Yiqing, Dai, Yang Jie; Director: Yang Jie; Chief camera: Wang Chongqiu; Character modeling: Wang Xizhong, etc.
But why is The Journey to the West's "sequel" different from the old one?
1, the makeup is very fake, Wukong's hair is too smooth, Bajie looks like wearing a plastic shell, and Tang Yan's face is heavily made up, which feels like a catwalk.
2, I care about Wukong, Wukong is old, obviously old, and his action spirit is not as good as before, alas! I wish someone could surpass him. Didn't you say to cultivate? If you train early, maybe there will be a new monkey king now ~
3. Run every time you hear the electric sound of the martial arts.
4, makeup is too amateur! It feels like that disgusting makeup in the windmill. Show it to the children, and the children will find fault.
An important reason is that writers and directors have not kept pace with the times and are deeply poisoned by the current costume dramas. Every episode has a female host, a anthomaniac Tang priest. And I treat the audience like children too much, and I really think I'm making a children's play. Look at makeup and clothes. At present, all kinds of vulgar lace fans and fishing nets are covered on me.
6. I have thought about this question. I think: Journey to the West is one of the four classical novels. Old plays are good because they show the cultural charm of famous works. The actor's acting skills are very simple, and the martial arts movements are all evolved from the play, which is very emotional.
The martial arts action of the sequel was designed by Hong Kong people. I feel like watching a martial arts movie, so I feel very bad. The performance of the old actor seems to have many shadows of China's classical dramas; The actors in the sequel are completely the performance skills of modern urban drama. In other words, when we look at the old edition, we feel like we are watching a play. Although the special effects are not good, they are very cultural. Although the new stunt looks good, it completely makes us forget that we are playing Journey to the West. That's almost infinite. Without culture, there is no blockbuster at all.
7. The plot drags on and is a little nervous. I have great expectations for the disaster in Lion Tuoling. The novel is very wonderful, showing the heroic courage of the Great Sage to the fullest! But after watching the TV series, I feel dizzy, not as good as comics ~ Really, the 52-episode comics, the lion camel bell, are very difficult to handle and have the charm of the original. The TV series gives me the feeling that monkeys and monsters play house.
8. Don't add some puzzling women. The first 25 episodes finished shooting the banshee, and the last 16 episode probably created a group of women out of the psychology of pleasing the audience (and changed a male snake spirit), such as Princess Peacock in the lion camel bell, the daughter of the river god in Tongtian River, and Julia, the daughter of Mr. Kouwai (but called this? ), ugly, completely unnecessary.
The adaptation of lines failed, and the lightness and humor of the first 25 episodes were completely lost. After reading it, I just felt tightness in my chest and couldn't laugh.
9. Martial arts design is crazy, smelly and long, just like manufacturing time. Monkey fights are like heroes in Jin Yong's plays, while the old pig has lost his simple and funny action characteristics and started fighting anticlimactic and sweaty. Although the martial arts in the first 25 episodes are simple, they combine the personality characteristics of the characters and have their own flavor. Besides, martial arts is not an important part of Journey to the West, so there is no need to take the martial arts route.
10, the music is inferior. Xu Jingqing's classic melody. Look at that stop, and everyone will be eclipsed. Even if it is ok, it is not easy to compare.
1 1, and the most important thing is dubbing. Obviously, it can be seen that the picture and dubbing are completely different things, which is very strange and not interesting at all.
12. Six-year-old children always grab sleeves, and their movements are not as smart as before. None of the other three actors can surpass the original. The stunt is hanging Weiya, not as good as that. I prefer to see the humble underwater dragon palace, which is made in heaven and earth.
13, procrastination, playing too slowly, is considered to be the main reason, which is the main reason for mainland TV dramas. The old version of Journey to the West has passed three episodes, and the new version has passed almost three episodes.
14, lack of special effects 20 years ago, so work hard on the plot; After 0 years, I lacked innovation ability, so I worked hard on stunts.
15, there is something wrong with the music, especially those funny music, which is annoying to listen to, and it is not a funny film.
There is something wrong with makeup. Immortals are all painted as monsters, and beautiful Hua Song is ugly. I think it's Korean makeup When I looked at the mouth painting, I thought it was from a Korean drama.
Several leading characters are old. The monkey's movements don't work.
The eyes of several protagonists have changed. Especially monkeys and Tang Priest, sometimes their eyes even make me feel that they are anti-angle, and their eyes are not clean.
Don't think the leopard head is a monster, it doesn't smell like a monster at all!
The plot drags on and on! ! The biggest gap with the old version of Journey to the West! ! This is obvious to all, and it is also the most unbearable thing for me. The martial arts scene is greatly exaggerated, and it is hard to accept that Journey to the West has been made into a martial arts film.
16, the most intolerable thing is that the professionalism and final effect of makeup have actually dropped compared with more than ten years ago. The previous hair and monster face grew naturally, and the new version seems to be hard attached.
Secondly, we can't tolerate the plot dragging on and adding women indiscriminately. The old version only dares to change one daughter, and the king still has half an episode to fight monsters.
17, I think there is a big problem with editing. Usually this story will be dragged on to the next episode. At the beginning of the next story, I haven't seen the monster's hair, and that episode is over. Looking at it like this makes me feel fragmented.
18, mainly because the director's ideas have not improved at all and are too backward. What Hong Kong third-rate martial arts design is invited is even more self-defeating.
In the sequel, lightning, Shi Huo and explosion are easy to play, both of which are overused by RTHK.
What is even more shocking is that a couple who play civilians in the mountains have long hair and are completely men in the old Hong Kong martial arts, which makes people laugh and cry.
The sequel is neither fish nor fowl, and I can't watch it at all.
19, tell me some classic fragments of the old version in my impression:
Wukong was so cute when he came out to study. He actually scared others by helping people pick up things in the street. Learn from old people to eat noodles in restaurants. If the noodles are too long, stand on the table.
Wukong was crushed under the mountain, and the camera showed wind, frost, rain and snow, accompanied by music, which was particularly touching. And that line: My grandson was cheated by you. I really want to cry.
Mrs. Gao's performance of the phrase "take the pig eight quit" is really kind and interesting.
In the episode where Li Shan's mother turned into a bride, Zhu Bajie's lines were so funny.
"Mom, if you look at me inside and out, just pretend to build a capital and confess me."
"No man in the world is ugly."
"Mom, if they don't recruit me, you recruit me."
And the princess played by Zhao, who is very kind. Wukong gambled with the goblin about beheading. After beheading, the princess touched Wukong's neck and saw that there was no scar. No, I'm so happy.
You can add that the new version is too impetuous and seems to have no feelings.
20. Why doesn't anyone say that music has sound effects? The sound effect is still as bad as ever-the old version is not good, but at least it is not as excessive as it is now, and the soundtrack at that time was also very classic; Now that sound effect sounds like I'm going to change the channel. Somehow I don't know what the so-called electronic effect is, it's noisy, but it has nothing to do with the scene action. It is better to ask the game company to make a few sound effects at will.
2 1, the theme song alone can't be compared, and it can be more impressive than < & dare to ask where the road is ><? I wonder if my nephew, who is only in elementary school, can tell the difference between an old play and a sequel?
22. In fact, if you want to compare, the follow-up is really ugly. We think the key lies in the actor's performance. In the past, actors' performances were very layered. At first glance, it is too small to see too fine a place, but the feeling can completely affect our aesthetic orientation. Just like in the girl country, the Monkey King went to get the well water for abortion, facing the cow brother who guarded the well, from the initial embarrassment of using water for abortion to the present embarrassment. Moreover, watching everyone's performance in the follow-up Journey to the West is completely cosmetic, and almost every actor's joys and sorrows have a trend, which makes him very upset.
23. Finally, my wife and I felt that in the old version of Journey to the West, the crew played as seriously as making a movie, although the conditions were limited. In the subsequent Journey to the West, I felt that the crew had casually dissolved the performance.
By the way, this is also the reason why I have never liked Zhang Ji's Jin Yong plays. I always think that the actors in his plays are divided into three categories: cool, plain, chic and bitter. Actors can't show the uniqueness of their roles, so I always feel that some characters with similar personalities in his plays are almost interchangeable. What's the point?
24. The shortcomings of the sequel (please call it a new version, which is inaccurate) mainly lie in:
Plot (procrastination)
Performance (mode)
Actor (old)
Martial arts (Hong Kong is gone)
Women (too many are too ugly)
Make-up (fake)
Music (bad)
Special effects (backward)
……
To sum up, the sequel is almost useless, and it is an out-and-out bad film!
25. There will be background music at the beginning of the fight, and the combination of fighting and music will make people feel very cold.
I miss the soundtrack of My Daughter's Love, How to Travel a Thousand Miles to the West, and Sunny Moon (Sweeping the Tower)!
And the actresses found in the sequel are ugly to death, all with pie faces, just like the same mold. After watching several episodes on and off, I asked my mother doubtfully why this demon and the village girl were both played by one person.
Think of the king of the daughter country, the jade-faced fox, the little dragon girl and the mouse essence. Really speechless!
26. I like the old makeup best. So far, it's in place. I like Niu Wangmo's nose best. It looks grown up and can move.
It's disgusting to look at the new makeup. Goblins are all human faces. I feel sick as soon as I change my color.
Listen to the soundtrack again and shout into your ear for fear that others will not hear you. I'll turn off the TV as soon as the music starts. I can't take it anymore.
And why do writers have so many girls? Are there any romantic dramas? After reading them, they want to hit people.
27. No, the tacit understanding, seriousness and harmony among actors are different. We can't say exactly what we said, but in the old version of The Journey to the West, Zhao played the Queen and the Nine Lions, although they only played a bit part, they all had the demeanor of old artists. The old version, I think even a demon is very energetic, with 25 episodes in 3 years. Although the technology is backward, it makes sense for me to take my time and do fine work. -Contemporary Dream of Red Mansions should train them to walk like ancient girls after choosing actors, so as to show the demeanor of a good family. Making things in those days was not a feeling of quick success and instant benefit.
I remember the old Monkey King Thrice Defeats the Skeleton Demon Tang Priest turned his back to see the running water after driving away the monkeys. With tears in his eyes, the Monkey King said something to the white horse's ear ... The emotional expression was in place.
Obviously, an actor plays two roles. One of them was changed by a demon, such as Jade Rabbit (the third one was changed by a monkey), Tsinghua, the shyness of a real princess, the charm of a fake princess, and the joke of a monkey changing into a princess's eyes, all of which were superb, making you believe that it was a demon! These glories disappeared in the new edition.
28. I don't have the courage to see it. I just glanced at it when I changed the channel.
The most direct feeling is that the clothes are too clean and new. Excuse me, do a group of people who have traveled long distances have this? Forget the Tang Priest. There are always goblins to help him bathe and sometimes enjoy the sauna. It's ok to be white. Wukong's hair is glittering. The other two have no memory at all.
A seemingly true and false episode of Wukong. Think about it. How many minutes does it take for a demon fairy to fight against 100,000 heavenly soldiers and several ordinary bandits?
The martial arts instructor is Akino in Huo Dongge, and the design action looks like one word: tired.
29, the lines are all water, nonsense, no original ancient style.
The stunt makeup is terrible, and there is no progress compared with 20 years ago. Compared with the previous propaganda, it is extremely disappointing.
The actors are always changing, and the performance is much worse.
30. The dubbing of old plays is really quite classic! ! Those instruments are really good.
Not to mention those famous songs. Those ordinary music, with different feelings of the plot. Resentment, sadness, lightness and strangeness really give people great enjoyment! Even now!
For example, the sadness of Tang Priest leaving his daughter country.
A buried king gave the Tang priest a dream at night. At that time, the music was weak and a little scary. Really classic! great
In addition, the relaxed and lively soundtrack often rings on Bajie. com. That's really interesting.
And the new version is really rubbish soundtrack. There is no life at all. The plot is more protracted than ten years ago. What rubbish.
This is not a nostalgic mentality at all, it is simply the difference between fast food noodles and handmade noodles!
3 1. If nothing else, the soul of Journey to the West is the Monkey King. In the 1980s version, six-year-old the Monkey King was a monkey, but in the sequel, the monkey became a human.
32, I say a few points:
1. The clothes of master and apprentice are all too new, the quality is too good, the color is too bright, and the sense of reality is greatly reduced.
2. Make-up is too flashy and humiliating, especially in Sun Xing, who is very girly, foundation-like and fake.
3. The mask is badly made. The monkey's face is hard, and the edge of the mask is well-defined and can't move. It makes the Monkey King look expressionless, only his eyes are moving, unlike the old mask, which is soft, and can show rich expressions and play a clever Monkey Brother.
The monkey's hair is too neat, the color is too light and uniform, and it is not as natural as the old version.
5. Martial arts design garbage, tongue twisters and other actions are too much, taking too long, and the sound effect is very retarded.
6. Special effects leave.
33. Khan, I took another look at it at night. Shenzhen TV Station is broadcasting the last episode of the sequel. It's really wordy! Here is a brief introduction:
While watching the lights in Jinping House, three monsters took the Tang Priest away, and the monkey went to save him, but when he came back, he saw Bajie eating steamed bread. He was so angry that the three brothers began to quarrel (to the effect):
Sun: You still have heart to eat! All of you! I lost it looking for you two!
Pig: Hey, who knows what will happen if you look at the lights?
Sun: You know that Master should pay attention to the disaster step by step.
Pig (muttering): You noticed, didn't you lose it, too?
Sun (jumping up): What did you say? !
Sha (exhortation): Brother, don't be angry. Don't be angry ... Did you go to save Master?
Sun (sarcastically): Oh, I'm not going to save the master. I'm going to see the lamp.
Sha (embarrassed smile): Oh, well, big brother, don't be angry, don't be angry, huh? We made a mistake ... it was second brother's playfulness!
Pig: Come on, I'm very interesting. Didn't you go to see the lights, too?
Sha: I ... I was. ...
Pig: You what you, you just ...
(Two people quarreled fiercely)
Sun (frantically): Stop it! ! !
(Two people suddenly quiet down)
Sun (continuing to be angry): I'm bored to death! ! ! (I laughed-the audience must be bored, too. )
Sha: Second brother, you should say less.
Pig Bajie (handing steamed bread): Brother Monkey, don't be angry. You eat something first, and we'll go to the savior together. ...
Sun (patting the steamed bread with one hand): Eat, eat, eat, and you will know how to eat! ! !
(Three people continue to wrangle)
……
I was really convinced by the author ... I strongly recommend applying for the best water injection award. ...
34. To summarize:
1. The performance of the old actors seems to have a lot of shadows of China's classical dramas; The actors in the sequel are completely the performance skills of modern urban drama.
The plot drags on, and there is no tension at all. I have great expectations for the disaster in Lion Tuoling. The novel is very wonderful, showing the heroic courage of the Great Sage to the fullest! But after watching the TV series, I feel dizzy, not as good as comics ~ Really, the 52-episode comics, the lion camel bell, are very difficult to handle and have the charm of the original. The TV series gives me the feeling that monkeys and monsters play house.
You shouldn't add some inexplicable women. The first 25 episodes finished shooting the banshee, and the last 16 episode probably created a group of women out of the psychology of pleasing the audience (and changed a male snake spirit), such as Princess Peacock in the lion camel bell, the daughter of the river god in Tongtian River, and Julia, the daughter of Mr. Kouwai (but called this? ), ugly, completely unnecessary.
4. The adaptation of lines failed, and the relaxed humor of the first 25 episodes was completely lost. After reading it, I just felt stuffy in my chest and couldn't laugh.
Martial arts design is crazy, smelly and long, just like manufacturing time. Monkey fights are like heroes in Jin Yong's plays, while the old pig has lost his simple and funny action characteristics and started fighting anticlimactic and sweaty. Although the martial arts in the first 25 episodes are simple, they combine the personality characteristics of the characters and have their own flavor. Besides, martial arts is not an important part of Journey to the West, so there is no need to take the martial arts route.
6. Music is inferior. Xu Jingqing's classic melody. Look at that stop, and everyone will be eclipsed. Even if it is ok, it is not easy to compare.
35. My feelings about the new edition are as follows:
1. I changed actors with the sand monk, but the two new actors were not so good, and their performances were terrible. Ma Dehua's Pig Bajie and Huaili Yan's Sand Monk are very classic.
2. The theme song is disgusting. Why just catch a few demons and knock them down?
The monster you are looking for is ugly. Find a second-and third-rate actor Jin to play Princess Peacock. Not long ago, I saw her in an advertisement for TV shopping and promoted her as a famous actress.
This music is terrible. As the people upstairs said, it's really hard to listen with a lot of electronic sounds.
The martial arts scene is so bad that it is neither fish nor fowl. After the sequel came out, it claimed to be much better than the previous 25 episodes in stunt martial arts scenes.
6. I don't know if Wang Xizhong made the props. Monsters are poorly designed now.
In the end, everyone agrees that the most important thing is that the charm has not yet come out.
Supplement: No matter how disgusting 15 episode is, it is much better than post-Journey to the West. That's even more disgusting In the last fifteen episodes, Cao Rong, who plays the Monkey King, seems to play the cousin of carp essence. He also plays the role of Shaolin wrestling with Zhang Wuji in the movie version of "The Dragon Slayer with Eternal Feelings".
36. The sequel to Journey to the West gives me the feeling of impetuousness and rough details. None of the women in the sequel has the charm of a classical woman! The most obvious thing is that when walking, how can we move the lotus lightly and come lightly? Between the eyebrows and eyes, there is also no enchanting or shy style of classical women!
I feel that the sequel is very different from the original positioning. Many traditional and attractive things in the original work are gone.
37. In summary:
The script of 1 is badly hurt and the plot is boring. What can be read in one minute is delayed for ten minutes, but I specially watched the screenwriters with opening subtitles, or the three old editions. I don't understand why the level of screenwriters will go backwards after fifteen years.
There are serious problems in makeup and character modeling. The reason why the old edition is so attractive is that it completely follows the traditional classical image of China in character modeling, such as the modeling of Chang 'e, towering bun, misty veil and beautiful colors. Although the makeup is not perfect, it can also be elegant, setting off the classical temperament, not to mention the fairy in the sky, which is the banshee on the ground. Although exquisite, it can also be elegant in makeup modeling. On the other hand, sequels, like those inexplicable costume dramas now, have fashionable hairstyles, clothes made of plastic paper or tablecloth curtains, and rich and tacky makeup. She is a good beauty, so when it comes to her face, she is horrible and old-fashioned. For example, Jin thinks she is a beauty, but it is obvious that the peacock princess she plays is not as beautiful and pure as the village girl, and Liu Dan who plays the dragon girl is also an example.
3 The choice of actors is biased. Most of the actors in the old version are from the stage of Chinese opera, so their skills are very good and their characters perform better. When the woman raises her hand, she puts on a classic charm, lightly moves the lotus step, sticks her finger to the orchid, and moves her eyes, which is very touching. Men play martial arts in person, such as Ma Dehua and Huaili Yan, without stuntmen, so sometimes she looks awkward (but that's what an old pig looks like). Looking at the sequel, it seems that except for six-year-old children and scenes that need special effects, all other martial arts scenes are full of flying. Of course, it is also because it is difficult to find dedicated and solid martial arts students now. As for actresses, it seems that they are wearing ancient costumes to perform modern plays, and they can't find any classical flavor.
Needless to say, music and computer stunts, many people think that even if all the old songs are used, they are a hundred times stronger than sequels. Even David Jiang's Where is the Road? Personally, I think it should be his cover version, and the arrangement and rhythm are not as good as the original. As for computer stunts, I feel that the sequel pays too much attention to this aspect, putting martial arts stunts on the plot, and there are many changes, whether it is Wukong or a monster. Using computer stunts to show the process in detail, martial arts is more expressive, but it makes people look strange. The old pig's skill suddenly became as flexible as a monkey, but is it still an old pig?
In addition to the above aspects, the reason why the old edition can impress people is that it uses a lot of pen and ink to describe the feelings of mentoring, which is delicate, warm and touching. In particular, the Tang Priest misunderstood Wukong many times, and Wukong still helped Master to obtain the Sutra without hesitation. Such feelings have no superfluous words, no sensational scenes, only a look at each other, a look back, a "Wukong" and a sentence. The sequel can't find this feeling at all. The only time only the Tang Priest missed Wukong and wept, but there was no plot to set it off, so this time it was deliberate. The sequel took a lot of time, but refused to spend more time on the interaction between master and apprentice. This is the biggest failure.
6 is just some trivial details. Many friends have also said that the old actor in the sequel is old, and the six-year-old boy has a young monk in the sequel, which is obviously old. Compared with the old version, it makes people sigh and miss the years! Xu Hua Shao, if not featured, is still not old, but one of the masters misses Wukong who was driven away by him and burst into tears. Zooming in, I found that even if the powder is so thick, the wrinkles on my face are still clearly visible, and the voice of Chi, including Li Yang, is a little tired in many plays, not as passionate as the old version, but I would rather believe that this is a production problem.
38. Say something:
1. Makeup is too fake:
The Monkey King is too fat and her hair is too fake. It is not as natural as before. Besides, how did the gold ring on his head come out of his hat? So, doesn't the Monkey King have to put on his hat first and then his gold ring every day? Isn't this interesting? Also, the leather gloves on your hands are clearly distinguishable and not as good as before.
Bajie's appearance is too fake, much more fake than before, and there are too many wrinkles on his nose tube, which is not as natural as before.
There is also the appearance of other monsters is also very outrageous, not as good as the makeup in the Hong Kong version of Journey to the West.
Summary: The makeup of the new version failed because the appearance of the characters in the old version was made by Wang Xizhong, so it succeeded, while the appearance in the new version was not made by him, so it went out of shape.
Step 2 behave badly
A six-year-old child looks really old. The previous performance gave people the feeling that it was very powerful and funny, but in the new version, they always grabbed the sleeves and the movements were not as flexible as before. Coupled with the failure of makeup, the more you look at it, the more annoying it is!
Everyone else is similar. Hey.
3. The plot is too slow
I won't say much about this, alas. ...
4. The stunt is still too fake
Although the old version of the stunt was poor, it was good in other aspects, but the new version announced how advanced the stunt was before it was released, but it was still so fake when it was broadcast.
5. The music is not good
Almost all the old music is classic, but the new music and soundtrack are too ugly.
6. Some plots are unreasonable
For example, in the episode "Battle of the Leopard Essence", the Monkey King and the leopard essence played outside the cave for n rounds without defeating it. How did they change the spell in the cave to stop it? If I knew it was so simple, why didn't I use magic in the first place? What are you fighting for?
39. I think both fake stunts and bad makeup music are superficial, and the most important thing is the lack of "love". When reading the old edition, you can feel the true feelings between the four masters, including Bai: the master-apprentice relationship between Wukong and Tang Priest; The brotherhood of Wukong and Bajie; Friar Sand's reverence for Master and Wukong ... these are the main reasons that move us. In the sequel, the master and the apprentice suspect and blame each other, and the brothers and sisters complain and blame each other, which makes people feel that the four have left Germany!
40. Your speech was really interesting. You've said everything I want to say, so I'll just say my own opinion.
The opening song of the sequel is too noisy, which is simply noise; I can never get tired of listening to the old opening song. I feel like I'm in the sky. This music is just right for this painting.
In the sequel, the leprechaun wears too much makeup. Originally, women were very beautiful, and their makeup was ugly. The mortal women and fairies in the old edition are very beautiful, and their decorations are shining and classical.
The old version is one story per episode, and the original story of the sequel can be finished in one episode, so it must be put off until the next episode. Isn't this suspense? Especially in the episode of blocking the Lion Camel Ridge, when the Tang Priest asked the Monkey King how to get there, I heard the Monkey King blowing his golden hoop. "I turned the golden hoop into forty or fifty feet wide and as thick as a millstone. This northern mountain killed 5 thousand, and Nanshan killed at least 4.5 million. " . And every time the Tang Priest teaches the Monkey King, it seems that the teacher is teaching the students. Every time there is a fight, Tian Tong Avenue is paved wider and wider. And stunts are abusive.
Anyway, I hope the director doesn't make a sequel.
(End)
Finally, let's test your eyesight. Which of the following two stills is the original and which is the sequel?