I pay attention to this program because of Ma Dong. The so-called "Thirteen Invitations" actually invite 13 representatives to interview every season, including people from all walks of life, such as Luo Zhenyu, Ma Dong, Jia, Ang Lee, Li Dan and so on. The program group is very careful in production. In order to respect the preferences of each guest, the program group often changes the interview environment. Whether in a coffee shop, a restaurant or an office, the slow pace and the characters themselves create a calm atmosphere, which is exactly what a group of successful people should look like when they sit down. In the program, we can see that Xu Zhiyuan is biased, but it is actually very attractive to see him immersed in his book career. His persistence was fully appreciated by the audience. When talking with Li Dan in the restaurant, we can also find his disdain and awkward attitude when talking with Xu. He completely ignored these topics discussed by the outside world.